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Red Teufel
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:18:00 -
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Ishtars are popular because of the old drone assist exploit FC's used in the past. So allot of people are using ishtars because of this. Nerfing them any more then what was already done is too much. Then you have the folks who have been destroyed by a small gang of ishtars complaining even though they brought kitchen sink fleet fitted for anoms to counter them. People are after the ishtar because it is the preferred ship due to its ability to deploy sentryGÇÖs and run around tricking the enemy to stay in the range of influence of the sentry guns. If you nerf the Ishtar the complaints will just move to the tengu or the demios. If you want to make a change try buffing web drones or nerfing sentry EHP. |
Red Teufel
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Posted - 2014.07.30 02:53:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Crazy thought for sentry drones:
Sentry drones are battleship sized weapons, in a very small hull. So they're taking liberties with shielding and the like, and are unstable.
When destroyed, they explode, damaging anything in a 6km radius, doing at least enough damage to kill any sentry drone (max boosted sentry drone, at that matter)
Oh, and push sentry drone deployment out to a 3km radius of the ship deploying them.
And just to take care of a potential issue, no sentry drone deployment within, say, 20km of a station or star gate.
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Red Teufel
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:28:00 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:Querns wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Sentry drones have enormous downsides. They can be killed like other drones AND they don't return to your ship. There's a reason they were never used at all until assist + these tracking/optimal bonuses came along. There's enough drone bay space plus cargo space (with depot) in an ishtar to carry 6 flights of sentries, letting you mitigate these "enormous downsides" quite effectively. What can be packed in with a Depot is largely irrelevant since it only takes ~300 to kill it before it anchors, not to mention no kiting ship will stop for a full minute to switch drones.
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Red Teufel
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Posted - 2014.08.05 12:45:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Hello
I was out of the office yesterday but I did get caught up here finally. I don't have a lot to add for the moment. We are still leaning towards more gradual changes for this particular pass but I'm going to get folks together once vacations are over and have a larger conversation about sentries and drone balance overall. I definitely agree that being destructible doesn't end up being an actual drawback for sentry drones in almost all situations. We could expose that weakness more by changing things like drone bay or drone HP but the August release is too close for that kind of change so I'll just get the conversation started and we'll see how things look for the following release.
I don't doubt that the Ishtar will still be strong, and we could definitely remove it from the meta by attacking the sentry use more directly, but we want to try and reach some middle ground before going that route.
One small addition - I'm going to even out the cargo capacity on HACs some in this release, the Zealot's very sad 260 cargo was very annoying.
I believe the Ishtar is in a good spot and shouldn't be nerfed anymore. If you want to think of something to be a decent counter other than Tengus maybe give torps splash damage again to pop the sentry drones. :P |
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:39:00 -
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also who knew the counter to an ishtar gang is a Micro Jump drive BC fleet....there you go. ishtar countered. |
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